The problem with b team

i love how this is a very subtle reference to the fact that they fucking locked balancord for some reason
10/10 writing mr. electric boy seven hundred and fifty seven

16 Likes

I now understand the phrase “Free Us”

arcane oddysey has 0 variety everything that’s different is the damage speed and size that’s it, same moves same everything. No idea why did vetex add so many magics to the lore/game just keep a few like in AA but with their own uniqueness of movesets and gimmicks, vetex buried his own grave imo and bteam sucks too

I give vetex more slack than bteam, its always b team pointing fingers anyways Vetex mostly just puts his head down and goes to work.

Ao is a game derived off inspiration and shouñd continue to be that way. Your right vetex should definitly capatalise off the foundation of the game and add more gimmicks

i blame vetex for everything he’s the reason i’m like this

1 Like

YES

My biggest disappointment playing WoM for the first time was that every magic was basically the same thing but if you looked at it side by side with another one you could see some slight differences in the stats (if I remember correctly every magic in AA had a completely different moveset)

I think they should expand on the unique features of magics, not nerf them down to the same level. That just creates a boring meta where magic gimmicks are just useless.

One example of this would be the change where movement abilities which refresh when touching the ground no longer refresh on ice platforms. You used to be able to dash + magic jump + dodge reflex and place another platform below your feet to cross the ocean like Frozone from the Incredibles. (magma could also do this) Now however, they aren’t good for much more than the occasional life-saving stamina rest point. It’s much more balanced yes, but it’s also boring.

What would I do? I would buff magic gimmicks to an extreme. I would make ice platforms bigger, not collide with eachother, and hitting one with ice magic would grow it instead of breaking it. Encourage the Frozone gameplay, not remove it, because it makes Ice more unique. By having bigger more stable Ice platforms, it would also be balanced out by making it easier to follow ice mages using their own tracks. Make snow piles into oppressive powder snow piles which slow you down until you leave them instead of a generic brick on the battlefield. Earth should also create those barriers like the Earthbenders from Avatar. Bring back Surge & pulsar knockback, Wind Surge used to be already be a GREAT “Get away from me” skill.

This is also why I believe Intensity to be useless, not only does it barely do anything but your magic gimmicks aren’t very useful to begin with. Some magics like Earth don’t even have them. (still think it needs a rework though because weapons and some fighting don’t have “magic gimmicks.”)

10 Likes

I like the way you think if i were balance lead id totally run this by vetex and see if it were implementable and aligned with what he wants.

6 Likes

Crazy idea, what if different magics had certain affinities towards different spell types, allowing them to learn them faster while spell types that don’t synergize well with the magic have higher requirements.

Like wind would unlock magic jump and a hover/glide ability earlier than other magics because its wind while said glide ability would have super high requirements for something like metal.

Or lightning/light would have beam as the first unlocked spell and blast unlocked later.

In the end you’d still get all of the spell types, just in a different order.

9 Likes

Want me to start another election

2 Likes

I’d fuck with that (I don’t run magic builds)

1 Like

I like this, honestly i think once vetex gets done with empire/clan building hes going to be open to more suggestions like this i think he still just gots alot of initial ground work to do, this idea makes total sense thoe and would be pretty cool :+1:

Side note I kinda wish metal and earth’s leap animation had like actual earth or metal come from the ground that launched them its a small detail thoe idk

Another example with Surge in particular could be that ice has a higher requirement for surge because its a solid magic while snow has a lower requirement because its snow.
While magics like wind, fire, and plasma would have the lowest surge requirements since they more naturally take on that form.

Explosion would uniquely have explosion as their first ability and could unlock Javelin earlier than other magics.

I’m just tossing ideas out here, I don’t know how this would actually work in practice, but I think it might be the start of players having the variety they seem to want between magics.

2 Likes

this was actually how it worked in WoM lol
If you used a solid magic leap spell it’d leave a bunch of the solid magic behind and it would work as a platform.

4 Likes

yeah, that’s because most of the community have builds that aligns with the meta or requires heavily less skill and don’t want it nerfed because they rely on their build to carry them

some nerfs are necessary

would be nice (though Vet might not add)

Vote for fridge ong I’ll basically just be a vessel and speaker for the community :100:

Id also implement systems that would make suggesting things to vetex more pallatable

For example one idea i had was once every 3 weeks 5 b team members(this is a random number of b team members) will each bring one favorite suggestion to Vetex. And are not aloud to use their own suggestions. This will make suggestions come across to vetex in a better light.

Tbf mancing is not hard it takes like 4 hours to max a build, i think the genuine problem rn is the lack of gimmicks for magics rn.

Thats pretty cool

Hes got my vote even though the mods didnt respond at all to the other election results that i sent them

1 Like

(really depends on your RNG, I don’t think I’ve 100% finished my atk spd build yet. Let’s be honest, you aren’t winning without atk spd)

1 Like