Things that Should be Magics and Aren't / Vice Versa

still just light, not the concept of speed

there is no way to properly balance it unless it and its lore were completely changed, especially with how it was described in the trello (it sounded like it could do literally anything), and even if it was balanced it would just ruin the variety you see in game. promethean flame is THE strongest thing. it is the combination of every other grand fire magic/curse to just make the ultimate magic/curse, everyone will just pick it because “it’s the strongest”. nothing labelled as the strongest should be added as a choice among other, inferior options for players to choose from

If speed had feather motifs, I’d be on board.

Just dumb it down for gameplay so that people can enjoy it.
7 DoTs never hurt anyone (more than they should as an ancient magic)

do we have plant magic

It got changed to Growth, preesumably

What stock said, except its really just a name change and nothing else.
Growth sounds better than Plant to be honest.

crazy part is this is only half right, it wasn’t just the other grand flames.
it was every flame, from the most basic (regular fire) to the most complex (phoenix) all cobbled together in an unholy abomination that could annhilate anything and anyone with 10 million different status effects
TLDR; go go gadget nuclear microwave bomb

my concern mainly lies with its reputation rather than its balance (though still an issue considering what its reputation actually is (the strongest)). if something labelled as the strongest is added, what’s the point of all the other things you could choose? there’s no point in choosing anything else when you could just have the strongest magic, it’s like including a nuclear bomb with regular guns

i get people like promethean flame, but it would not be good as a player obtainable magic as far as i can see

So just have it be all of the things involved toned down by a LOT

then it would be practically useless (theres alot of things to clear burns)

Not only is that true, but even at that it’s such a boring thing to have as the strongest magic. It just takes the powers from the other grand fire magics and combines it into one thing. At least with other combination magics you can have some cool combos, but this one is just fire and more fire. To have that as the pinnacle of magic is just so lame.

That’s a minor thing. If people aren’t willing to research just how much stats it has, then they wouldn’t even know that it’s supposed to be hugely strong.

to be fair, it kinda earned its spot as the pinnacle of all magics due to how it worked
not even death magic would be able to kill quicker than it because it just incinerated you with every flame all at once, it was practically unstoppable
morock only lost because he had a skill issue

I think it makes a fine pinnacle.
Prometheus gifted people with fire, and granted himself the most powerful magic ever, the greatest fire ever.

Yeah I know it earned it’s spot because its the best that’s kinda par for the course for anything that’s the pinnacle for something. My problem with it is that it’s just a lame boring magic especially for something that’s supposed to be the best one.

What would you like to be the pinnacle, then?

the entire thing about promethean flame is that it was a magic created specifically by the god who gave everyone magic to specifically be the strongest magic, if it was actually in game then learning about it would be unavoidable

Why?

Literally anything that isn’t a combination of a bunch of things that are the same at their core. To be perfectly honest I’d rather there not be a specific magic that’s the best ever, so I don’t really have anything in mind for what I’d want to be the pinnacle. I don’t want there to be a pinnacle. I’m chill with different tiers of magic, but one magic on it’s own that’s better than all the rest is not something I want to exist.

If I absolutely had to choose for there to be a pinnacle then I’d say we shouldn’t have any half-measures and limit it to a group of one sorta type of magic. It should just go all the way and combine all the magics into one ridiculous insane hodge podge monster magic. That or a magic that’s actually unique unto itself. Maybe something like a chaos related magic? Since that’s the actual pinnacle of magic, not sure how that would work though. It doesn’t really matter anyways since again I really really don’t want there to be one specific magic that’s better than all the rest.