This wotan dude

Source on that? Or did you make it up… LIKE HALF OF ALL YOUR ARGUMENTS?

First of all, chaos is attracted to MALICE not strength. Rupin didn’t need to be strong to attract chaos. All he needed to do was be annoying and kill people, the only reason Chaos even cursed the old sea was because he killed people AFTER the One shot pirates had LEFT THE OLD SEA YOU FOOL

Clearly you must be blind because the date of the borealis raid comes BEFORE rupin’s destruction of the old sea. Meaning that the OSP had already LEFT the old sea BEFORE rupin started his massacre. Meaning he NEVER MET THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE

Ah yes… retconned lore from OF. Truly the most reliable source!

Skittles has truly fallen so far… the delusions of grandeur must’ve taken over his mind

Also, this “source” of yours only proves my point further. This fraud was hiding in his little village “protecting” the fire curse from fodder while the Cursebeard pirates and the actually relevant characters were out there doing actually relevant things

Yo forgetting ALL biases here, brain to brain here.
Do you think the guy with currently THE STRONGEST canon curse is losing to someone else with a weaker curse that also has a negative clash rate?

Malice wont bring chaos. You need to be malicious WHILST committing atrocities. Rupin clearly slaughtered enough people with evil intent for Chaos to emerge, and we know Rupin likely killed in the hundreds during his time in the Seven Seas due to his bounty. Which means, yes, Rupin needed to have done a MAJOR atrocity whilst being malicious for enough Chaos to form to make the entire sea UNINHABITABLE. (unless ur some viking people, ig?)

No, this is just a result of the formation of the AG not making sense. In AA, the Borealis would have been made in a non existent time during the Seven Seas. We KNOW it was made in the Seven Seas, since at the time of AA, the Old Sea was not a major concept, neither was a migration to the Seven Seas even in the lore doc yet.

This is like Morock’s battle at the Bermuda Archipeligo not making sense chronologically, since he fought the AG 100 years before AA, but The Seven Seas is supposedly only 50 years old. So no, I wouldn’t count this as a canon thing, Vetex just needs to fix his lore doc since his new lore doc changes actually destroyed 90% of AA’s lore lol. (Alalea was supposedly ALSO made a century before AA, so erm…)

Not reconned yet, but would be nice if OF also got a lore rewrite since its technically canon, just not reasonable considering the new lore doc changes.
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Protecting the second strongest elemental curse is NOT a fraud activity, lol. It’s actually highly responsible and honourable, considering we know what happens to a person’s mind when under the influence of the Fire Curse

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There is a reason Vetex glazes wotan so much
There is a reason WHY warren does not consider meetings with Wotan to be favorable
There is a reason WHY Sameria considers Wotan THE one opponent that is not to be faced.
Let me ask you this: Do YOU really expect the character built up to literally be the “STRONGEST” and “MOST POWERFUL” in this cluster to be defeated so easily by his rival? If he was so weak in the first place that a clash advantage would matter. Then he would never be called THE CONQUEROR in the first place


“Evil thoughts”
“Attracted to pure evil beings”
Yes, Rupin did slaughter many people. But how many of them were actually powerful? I’m not talking like Admiral level powerful, we all know Rupin easily beats Admirals. But did he ever actually fight or kill someone on the level of a curse user in his own sea? Did he ever fight and subdue a Fleet Commander like Arsen?

This is simply another consequence of retcon man(vetex)'s retcons…

It is quite honorable, after all, these are magic cubes of mass destruction that could cause untold damage to the world, however. I cannot let him slide without being slandered, a man must fight for his agenda… You should know this very well.

Sorry but Wotan isn’t only a fraud, he’s a dumbass. Maybe I’ll put some respect on his name when he stops sending his men into battle equipped with the loadout of some fucking norwegian stripper in 800 AD, when his enemies use guns lol.

The feat of mass murder is not his primary feat. It’s that in a Sea Cluster with VALENCIA and a supposedly RIGHTEOUS Proto-AG, he was UNTOUCHED (and might’ve teamed up with Trigno?)

If we’re being real here, Rupin probably fucking committed murder of like 25-50% of the cluster population, since every sea cluster seems to have a population under like 100-200k and most populations live in like 1 area. The Old Sea probably would have had around 50k or so, which I would say means he killed like 15k-20k Civillians to amass Chaos, whilst also not being confronted by Valencia. So Valencia is either a fraud, or probably a psychopath.

We need OF and AA lore confirmations, since realistically he would’ve, but nobody can say for sure.

Fair, I do wish we could’ve just kept the old AA lore whilst having WoM be the finisher of the trilogy, since it makes no sense for the AU trilogy which starts in the same area, to end like 2 months after the peak of the series, in a completely unrelated region on the other side of Earth.

And to this I tip my hat.

(Hold on did Morock amass Chaos when he fucking slaughtered like 10k members of the AG? HOLY SHIT LOL)

yes, he did.


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i dont know, man… did he?

also thank you skittle the goat for taking over the arguement while i was offline :pray:
can always count on the morock saints

because he wants to make the frauds in the war seas look stronger :laughing:

warren is equal to a guy with a base magic curse that he has DOUBLE power against
(fire + the 2nd strongest of the gf curses)
wotan isnt that strong
warren is just weak :person_shrugging:

Idk why people think the war seas are so weak compared to the seven seas

The war seas have way more established kingdoms and factions with their own navy and army, there seem to be way more curses in the war seas AND the grand navy is stronger than the arcane government

Vetex also said the war seas will have some people on the level of Theos and durza who were both top tiers in the seven seas

Cursebeard is an exception because we already know he’s the strongest

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Also what trello is that it looks interesting

its the old arcane adventures trello
you can find the link in a few comments/replies

LIKE ARSEN.
Not some random ass water mage master, I mean someone who is ON the level of Arsen. Arsen was part of the upper echelon of strength in the crew, he wasn’t some fucking unnamed fodder that got offscreened

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People glaze the seven seas because of nostalgia factor

dawg…
can you not read
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And your basis on that is…?
Wotan has repeatedly been said by Vetex to be among the most powerful in the world, and yes. He is INCLUDING strength as a factor here. Especially since MANY characters have spoken of his strength
You simply cannot accept that Wotan slams half of the Seven Seas.

So do you think that these fleet commanders are as strong as Poseidon…?

No, there is a clear gap of power between all of the commanders. With Poseidon and Apollo being the most powerful of them. If this statement were ACTUALLY true, then the One Shot Pirates wouldn’t have even lost

The steering wheel is hung up in Cursebeard’s palace.

And let me remind you:


Again, he is not a top tier. Rupin would easily lose to someone like Nero or Wotan.

the moment vetex glazes ur fav character you say ‘‘SO REAL!!’’
the second vetex glazes another character ‘‘GRRR!! bad!’’

then
if you count strength as power
why does it say ‘‘equally powerful’’ in that image

that is written in the OFFICIAL arcane adventures trello

:eyes:

tech and vetex are glazers and have no idea of power-scaling dawg :sob:
these are the same people who cant stop retconning something for a week

i have literally told you they glaze war sea chars to make them seem stronger than they are

thats like if i call my weakest oc ‘‘the strongest in the universe’’ when theres like 90+ stronger characters over them and someone blindly believes me


from the same trello ^^^^

Look up, literally what it says from the official AA trello ^^^

ALRIGHT GUYS LET’S PLAY A GAME, WHAT WILL I TRUST MORE:

  1. An old, outdated trello made by a 16 year old vetex?
  2. A new statement made by a 23 year old vetex

great!!
you found something to finally break one of my arguements!!

the rupin being the cause of the old sea being ravaged is also recent
??
yet you just?? dont care about that feat?? for some reason??

then can i not just use the same logic for the image you posted

i’ll be real
i dont care if im wrong
im just gonna continue arguing because its fun :person_shrugging:

It doesn’t matter what your headcanon says. This is vetex and techlevel’s story, they literally MADE Wotan to be stronger than Rupin and the AA characters (aside from Cursebeard, Morock, and other top tiers)

Killing fodder is not a feat.

You can, but then it breaks your entire argument again. Because then your only proof is “rupin killed fodder and made chaos come to the old sea!!”