I love how the power levels of the NPCs are so confusing that there has to be a guide for it.
do you… know what oc stands for…
you say that as if wotan has any feats whatsoever
just because he has stories about his strength means nothing
if we count that… then we should count killing fodder too 
how do you glaze vetex and tech for glazing fraudtan but the second they finally show that rupin got COUNTS and soloed an entire sea cluster you say ‘‘NOO!!! THAT CANT HAPPEN!!’’
again, do you not understand that was a comparison
they’re not showing it in a good way… they’re just saying it and you blindly follow it
rupin has far more feats than fraudtan who doesnt even have screentime
First of all, you made a direct comparison to that of Wotan and “random weak oc”, I simply called you out on your fallacy. It is a complete mismatch to compare Wotan (who again, is literally built to be the strongest guy in the sea cluster) to an oc that is suddenly declared to be strong
? All we have ARE stories of Rupin killing people. We literally don’t see either in game and so the only reliable source that exists is Vetex’s word. Rupin’s only feats are from killing people and being a “strong guy” according to vetex and tech while Wotan has been repeatedly stated to be ONE of the most powerful people in the entire world.
Because again, they were fodder. Most of the actually powerful characters weren’t even around when he began his rampage… The one shot pirates had already left the Old Sea
Yet you also blindly follow vetex’s word…?
YOU’RE the one whose using VETEX’S statement about RUPIN destroying the old sea by bringing chaos to it. But bringing chaos to the land has NOTHING to do with strength
Also
^^^ still not top tier even in the war seas
it is literally the same thing tho
wotan has 0 feats
its… not like that just because vetex says says so
THIS IS LITERALLY THE THING YOU’RE DOING WITH WOTAN???
what the fuck is the entire point of you glazing wotan and criticizing me for glazing rupin when you are doing this EXACT thing
genuinely tell me how you know they left
you’ve been disproved of this numerous times
theres a difference between vetex saying rupin has a giant feat and just saying wotan is strong because of whatever
i again tell you that they glaze the war seas… can you not read
where did your literacy go istg
I am not criticizing you for glazing Rupin. In fact, you can glaze Rupin however much you want. HOWEVER, the problem comes in when you start claiming that Rupin is stronger than Wotan. Vetex has REPEATEDLY stated that Wotan is one of the strongest characters in the world, and that’s final. That is a direct statement that CONFIRMS his place in the world.
The Pirates had left for the seven seas and to hunt the Borealis around 1664… While Rupin began his massacre around 1800
???
No i have not???
“Evil Thoughts”
Where is strength mentioned?
Glaze or not, they write the fucking story… meaning what they say, whether you like it or not, is still canon to the lore.
That’s AR lore I think
Prometheus spread the sea curses all throughout the world. Cursebeard actually had to go on a massive voyage all around the planet to collect the curses he wanted and bring them all together (curses can be carried without absorbing them if you use an arcanium gauntlet btw)
Exactly
that worlds strongest list is wrong anyway because durza was stronger than theos during aa and on the list it says otherwise
Then pick absorption and get yoinking
sorry for answering this far too late i was procrastinating…
great thing but vetex has 0 understanding OF powerscaling
he will outright nerf or retcon characters who are MEANT to be strong
Vetex has unironically contradicated himself numerous times in powerscaling
(and also the horrible tell dont show but you know…)
ok now i can finally see that
BUT even then we have no idea how many threats (apart from the ones i’ve listed already)
the old sea definetly had threats no way there wasn’t
those evil thoughts i’d presume would need to be DONE
you cant just like
summon chaos from evil thoughts
like ‘‘ohhhh im gonna blow up ravenna…’’ that shits not gonna summon chaos unless you do it
if that was the case the entire universe would’ve been done for because of intrusive and impulsive thoughts
thats great and all but when have they ever written something in arcane odyssey that doesnt contradict whatever has been said in arcane adventures and games before that
they write the story but like??
also im giving this example again
if i took a fodder character OF MY OWN UNIVERSE and called them one of the strongest people in the world
you would not believe me because they have 0 feats and are of course FODDER
this is literally what Wotan is
he has no feats and he is a fodder
if they cannot back up their claims AS the writers themselves then its an asspull
woah?!?! the creators of their own universes can say dumb shit and it not being believed?!?!! omg!? really?!!
(watch glitchtale you’ll understand what i mean)
(no seriously the creator of it understands 0 powerscaling just like vetex)
(like the series powerscaling is messed up)
yeah
with INSANE bias
in short rupin solos… sorry not sorry…
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mfw one of the most powerful people in the world get called fodder 
he has 0 feats whatsoever
just because he gets glazed does not mean hes suddenly strong
i have said this so many times…
i apologize to you because i know you’re also with the light of morock but im afraid this arguing may not be able to be avoided
i agree that he has no feats, but when you call a character who is on numerous occasions stated to be among the strongest in the war seas fodder it doesnt really make any sense
does this also make warren fodder since he also has no feats, despite being among the grand fire goats
yes it does
i may or may not glaze fire or fire related users but holy shit i cannot defend warren bro
hes weak as shit
IMAGINE RIVALING THE GUY WITH THE WOOD CURSE…??? A BASE MAGIC VS A GRAND FIRE CURSE
YOU HAVE ADVANTAGE TWICE
WARREN WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING GANG LOCK IN
i feel like this is because the war seas itsself is fodder
vetex does not do a great job at showing powerscaling aswell (or well, after arcane adventures that is…)
i understand the need to glaze someone tho 
the reason he has no feats is because if vetex revealed his feats it’d be a spoiler bro
genuine question how would it be a spoiler (no like im confused seriously how)
you cannot tell somebody that a character with 0 feats is the strongest (or one of the strongest) and just not elaborate on it whatsoever
durzas feats are not a spoiler
rupins feats are not a spoiler
plot relevance?
Wotan is clearly a big bad in the story, I assume something he did is gonna be a big reveal.
because they ain’t in arcane odyssey bruh