"Vetex will never disable PvP"

no no no.

the rule is “you dont hunt other negative reps”
the pirates break this rule and hence are enemies of the AS. and since they are allready negative rep allready are enemies of the GN.

and still this is a PvP mechanic. has no bearing on PvE anyways

ofc I still am a advocate for “vetex just give us PvE servers PLEASE”

no just go in an empty server

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would be nice if most of the 1-2 player servers weren’t locked or restricted in some way :^)

(tbh if vetex did add a 1-player mode I would be fine with that also. since cant have PvP if other players cant join you)

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Assassins can’t hurt other Assassins

that’s basically the same as pve server

he’d disable open world pvp if it wasnt the only reason for some people to play

this isnt disabling pvp though, this is more like adding restrictions to it if you’re a positive rep. Im not complaining, its a great change that gives more incentive to go negative reputation since it gives you more freedom to hunt whoever

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Ok, if you really hate being bothered by other players, here are some solutions options*:

  • remove all renown (number one sweat magnet)
  • use in-game tools to escape pvp(potions, high agility, boat pvp, whatever)
  • gank someone with a clan (you might get shitted on but better than nothing)
  • get better at world pvp
  • move to asia and play asian timezone with aisans (almost no pvp from my expirience)

You wanting PvE servers is just being too lazy to put in any sort of effort into dodging PVP.

Add joining small servers to that list.

I feel like some points here arent that valid. Im not gonna aruge for PvE servers or toggling PvP thats just stupid and not gonna happen. But i also feel like pushing all the blame on just the player and not the game not preparing the player for it is kinda bad and will make people go into a defensive mode.

  • Renown is more tied to PvP yes but PvE wise its an immersion tool to Roleplay as ur charcter better, yes increasing it doesnt do anything but it also does happen automaticly. Always needing to run to the Marines or Assasins is annoying just to not get sweated on by people (A way to make it less bad is to have a cap of renown for PvE)

  • Not everyone has clan mates or a clan active in their server. Relying on a clan for avoid PvP is not a vaiable option for most people. (Also socialising with other people isnt everyones strong suit some just want to play a game alone)

  • There are little to no ways to activly go into PvP. You need to have the optimized equipment and someone that even is wanting to duel. (This is exacly why we need elyisum to be a PvP hub so people can acctuelly train.)

  • Some People have a severe case of bad internet and going on an asian server is just not a good option to play AO. (Also would make it even worse when u get attacked on that server)

if you have high renown, i’m hunting you down while i have an advantage

This is already a thing with GN players and good rep players so i dont see why this is much of a problem. The only bad side is players being able to mess with you, like being on your boat or smth and you can’t get them off but that’s really it.

Honestly if you’re against this change just be a bad rep, simple.

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that’s one of the main benefits (and also downsides) of negative rep bru

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Ikr the whole point of going bad rep back in WoM was that you were allowed to attack literally anyone you wanted. It’s part of the reason I don’t bother doing bad rep in AO so far since you can attack almost anyone as a good rep.

please do, i join the game for 5 minutes a month (nimbus sea wait)

  • Immersion should be a base of the game not a choice after all i feel like immersion is what AO is very good at as a PvE game. Really i would just love a cap for it for PvE as it keeps the immersion but makes u less of a target.

  • That topic was pretty good and i see that its just a problem now but many dont see that and wont read that long text likely. Maybe it always needs to be said under threads like these to hammer it home. But also it doesnt sadly solve the issue of current PvP tho we have a bright future to look to.

  • With the getting attacked at bad ping i meant getting attacked by a player with normal ping so u playing on an asian server and getting atttacked by someone in asia. I should have made that clearer sorry.

high agility

have you seen all the nerfs to combat “running” which imo is BS. if they can run you just RUN AFTER THEM.