Vetexgames community

If you’ve seen what has happened in Vetexgames discord general, then you probably know what this is about. Im talking about it cause i do like sharing my thoughts even though some may not agree with my opinion. If you don’t know what it is about, to put it very briefly from my understanding:

Vetex wants/wanted to (im not sure if the idea was backpedaled) rename the build names. The community doesn’t like the new renames/idea so they lambast Vetex, who in retaliation fires back at his own community.

The other reason im talking about this is because i’ve seen both parties display discontent towards each other in the past, and they think that the other side is at fault and needs to do better. Also ive been left baffled cause i rarely see communities like this.

What im talking about and what i’ve seen previously has been really well exemplified by yesterdays general chat (only saw it today).



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IMO, there is nothing that justifies a community and developer relationship looking like this, I also don’t even know how it really gets to this point. This whole thing is just one side expecting the other side to do better without actually putting in the effort in themselves to be better.

This is pathetic on both ends. This build rename change is very insignificant and it doesn’t warrant the vileness that vetex recieved (not that it anything should warrant it). Vetex, a 25 year old game developer should not be in conflict with his players who are potentially many years younger than he is. All that both sides are accomplishing is feeding into a negative cycle, it doesn’t do anyone any good.

The key takeaway? “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. A simple solution made not easy to accomplish because of the comfort provided being anonymous.

If you bothered to read my rant, thanks. I dont make alot of topics as lengthy as this.

Im also very sorry for the all the screenshots i put in. it looks a bit messy

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Vman was getting blasted from Patreon to lvl25 chat, and vetcord general was pretty much the last straw. I don’t know where the hate for the name changing comes from; I just know the new names are cheeks. If “Strong Warrior” wasn’t a thing, I’d wager there’d be fewer insults flung around.

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If you pay attention to AO communities recently, you’d notice a large portion already bearing resentment towards Vetex’s decisions (such decisions include things like Hecate essence, KDR statistics, Town NPCs, delayed Vitality content for no reason, etc.). It was definitely one of the driving forces behind such hostility, especially town NPCs since WoM town NPCs were taxing performances like they were medieval toll collectors.

The altercation was inevitable. Considering past arguments, this one was not surprising at all save for the vetcord lockdown.


I’m glad a big part of the community supports the name change, so a middle ground could be reached. Idk if anything’s going to change, we’re probably going to do this whole thing over again, but for now, the future seems positive at the very least.

Tensions between the community and Vetex are rising…I fear if after full release something isn’t resolved, it may be the end of…something :melting_face:

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From the community side, it is outright impossible to get through to vetex. Feedback seems to go nowhere, suggestions are pretty much irrelevant, and he seems to have little care for the community when adding/changing stuff. Whenever there is a controversial change, feature or requirement, he’s quick yo slap “lore reasons” onto it, which feels like him saying “dont bother me about this, i wont change it”, whenever you see “lore reason” you just have to accept because, after all, it’s his game and that’s how he envisions it.

All this to say that you can only talk to a wall so long before you lose your mind and start screaming.

I dont think they were right when firing insults at vetex, but i sure understand how tired they were. And vetex responding to that the way he did is almost like saying “hey, if you want a reaction from me, call me a dumbass”.

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oh he changed the names that why everyone was yapping abt them

what’re the new ones

why’re you censoring the most atrocious one
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Where is Reallyshortshanks?

fr man had the audacity to say “youre the problem not us” when people were insulting vetex on a personal level over some name changes :sob:

He didn’t end up changing it because people kept pinging him about it

what was he gonna change it to tho

did he ban them

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yeah pretty sure

sounds ai generated tho ngl

but does the descriptor part at least get added

I think that got removed as well

at the same time you gotta realize most of these people insulting him are little baby children and its better to pay them no mind and give them no attention

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in some way, i think it does trickle down into the games development. I doubt it’d be enough to end development but it would discourage vetex to some capacity

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i accept the apology at least, we all have bad days where we let out a lot of pent up frustration

not to say what he said was justified but i like that he put the effort in to apologize

and I dont think these people deserve to be crucified. Years ago, I was one of these people and I gave little care to what i said to others over the internet. Simultaneously irl, I also had many people who liked me and I was described by my own teachers to be kind and softspoken.

The point im trying to make is that anonymity doesn’t bring out the person that we truly are, but rather it can bring out the worst or the unexpected within us. Which can often dilute how we present ourselves to others online.

To put it simply, everyone has intrusive thoughts and theres a reason we don’t let them win irl, but that reason can seem almost non existent on the internet.

It doesn’t justify what shanks or what anyone said to vetex and vice versa, but it does inform a bit on the why part.

and i am hesitant to call them bad people worthy of being shamed because its hard to make accurate judges of character based on a few messages.

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