He’s running his country like George Orwell’s 1984
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i’m not sure i understand your post. isn’t everyone a victim of circumstance?
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I think what the OP means are the things that made him that way, which is still bad, but it at least gives us an idea of why he would do things he has done
Means nothing, he’s pure evil, not a mere victim of circumstances
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I’m not a big fan of dehumanizing someone even of they done awfully terrible. To acknowledge the humanity in evil person is to acknowledge someone own potential to be fall into evil ourselves.
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Hitler had it worse
Both committed genocide
According to you hitler isn’t the literal icon of evil
You lose your humanity once you’ve committed irredeemable acts
I at first want to bring up Hitler as an argument, but I think it’s a bit stretch, but now you mentioned it.
If you look at Hitler deeper than the genocide he did, he was an artist but failed, have terrible life after WW1, and inspires many people that his regime got big and was willing to die for him.
Revon will do no matter what to avenge his brother is because deep down he is a good person and knows him as an individual very well, but that doesn’t make all of his atrocities justifiable.
You could call Morden a good person, but he’s kind of a jerk with how he relies on torture when interrogating a Ravenna guard who just doing his job at Fort Talos. but why it’s good just because he fight the Order of Aesir?
Acknowledging the human side of terrible people makes us realize how we as humans can do it as well. When given the power, we could become the next Hitler.
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No doubt- in the end, the man was condemned by our character as ‘evil’ and was killed for all he had done.
But I think that outlining the context and history surrounding him can help us understand the person behind the evil. We are all subject to our individual circumstances in life, not everyone makes the best choices from them.
We are allowed to condemn those we deem immoral for their choices. But retroactively understanding why they acted the way they did can shed new light, while also maintaining the stance that they are to be punished for their wrongdoings.
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Calling him human is different from dehumanizing, you’re entirely backtracking.
Dehumanizing and loss of humanity refer to whether or not the person is deserving of humane treatment.
I’m aware of his entire story as is literally taught in history, doesn’t make him deserving of any form of humane treatment.
If you seriously think hitler is deserving of humane treatment, you’re on the wrong side of history bud.
Hitler is “human” in the end, and that just show us how we as human are capable to be him
Not what dehumanizing refers to nor humanity, that’s a species
Doesn’t make him a victim of his circumstances, never denied any of that
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I’m using human in a context of a person, that doesn’t make him good nor should we justify him.
You’re still backtracking from the initial message of
The death penalty is dehumanizing, including killing king Calvus, do you think killing someone who’s done literal genocide is good or not?
I would argue that being a young inexperienced king in seas rife with war is a negative circumstance no?
It is what ultimately led to the Order’s influence on Calvus.
He had a multitude of choices and picked the worst ones.
He is a product of his own choices
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I don’t understand what you mean by “backtracking” but I hope what said in this reply would be clear to you.
Dehumanizing I mean is to portray someone in a way that obscures or demeans that person’s humanity or individuality.
I hope this would be clear already
Why would Revon avenge him? why would Revon be so pissed his brother is killed when he never gets involved in his doing? why do people of Ravenna that don’t know about his action look him highly as a king?