What Do You Think Of Jarl Ivar?

Probably going to be last magicless guy we see in the story with how heavily vetex is pivoting towards magics and curses

Sad to hear this

i mustve misread smthin

An oracle can still appear, at least we got chances to see that

do we even have any other magicless boss i legit cannot recall a single one

oh right carina

yep thats it, guess thats as far as “top 15~25” go, huh

i still think vetex should have stick to the original plan aka making magic the aactual main thing from the start like in AA and WOM instead of pretending that there are other equals options

Revon

If anybody remembers, the original plan was heavily inspired by One Piece, and there are a lot of “magic“-less, but still powerful people and non-people

yea but magic is still very obviously the main thing, weapon and strength are just side stuffs, at least no one pretend that they were equals when they clearly isnt - hell dont even say its just lorewise bcs gameplay wise magic also dominates all else lmao

Limiting how strong someone can get based on purely luck gotta be one of the dumbest modern lore changes made

Oh Caesar? Fair fair kinda forgot about him lol. Honestly I don’t find Caesar problematic at all, he’s just a bit time consuming with the giant sword attack he has (though that is also a blessing in disguise as it gives ya a chance to heal)

And for Jorund, I did mostly include the ship fight as a part of his general “boss” design, hence why I thought he might be problematic

Caesar technically didn’t have a curse, he had a blessing which I don’t think give immense power boosts as curses do? Might be wrong there though lol

Blessings are more about their gimmick than raw power unlike curses, but in the case of Caesar he can scale absurdly fast with enough luck on revives

Blessing are just curses but better

blessing, right, i forgot lazarus is a blessing now

anyhow, nope, im pretty sure that shyte double/increases the user strength each revives, so in raw powers caeser IS cracked. him being undead/whatever the hell he is probably dulled his mind so much he cant properly use his powers as well as when he was alive, though

I wouldn’t say better, it depends on the specific blessing, not in general

It used to just be a doubling of overall power but after a retcon it now goes off of the golden ratio(?)

ya i remember tech said that too, strength increases is decrease and revive cchance also with each revive iirc

guess that also mean freedrock got massively nerfed down, huh

For a hybrid, I’d say Spirit is better. A similar thing (but not the same), but with added-on regeneration and better route-exclusive gear. A hybrid’s lower amount of stat points won’t let you access a mage’s most powerful spells they’re rightfully praised for.

And for a full stat build, I am still giving it to Weapons. They’re just that versatile, and many high-level skills are more insane that whatever Magic has. Besides, they got Lost Knowledge.

Well he isn’t a pew pew magic man so probably

but he got cool sword and strong punches :frowning:

i hope he died somewhere near war sea so we can nabbed his sword