I get that AI art is soulless and it’s essentially stolen as it uses people’s real effort to compute but why do artists attack people using it, instead of asking for AI laws/rights or attacking the people who are actually stealing their art in the first place
I also keep seeing posts about “delete AI artists” and it’s always something about clowning people for calling themself an AI artists. I’ve NEVER seen ANYONE using AI art call themself an ARTIST
Artists should stop wasting time attacking people and should focus on protecting their work or take steps to adapt against AI.
Theres a lot of issues with AI art, but the main ones are this;
AI art often uses farms of computers to generate the art. This can cause pretty extreme damage to the enviornment and local grids/electricity resources because of the sheer amount of power used. This has been a known issue where people who use normal amounts of electricity in their home have to suddenly use less and less and practically ration themselves because of companies not being honest with the local government/council about their usage. [Enviornmentally bad]
AI art often steals art from artists who did not consent to their art being used. This has been legally defined as copyright infringement and theft. Therefore a lot of current AI models steal from artists to generate AI art, and this has resulted in a lot of job loss for artists. [Theft and job loss]
AI art has been used to generate illegal content. Whether it be about animals, minors, etc etc, the filters on AI models is very finnicky and often requires real illegal content to be sampled and compared to let the AI model understand what is and isnt okay; this is generally morally bad and people dont like that. [Illegal content and worker wellbeing/mental health issues.]
Some people who use AI art utilise it to scam others. This is common in Etsy but can occur in other marketplaces like Ebay or Amazon. Some people use AI
art to advertise fake commission or fake crafts such as crochet. [Scams]
Some individuals use AI art to chase attention and clout. This is either by claiming AI art is supreme and boasting about being an “AI artists”, or by concealing the fact they used AI and just claiming they do real art. Either way this is considered scummy [Asshat attentionseekers]
these are not two wholly separate issues; people using ai art programs gives support to the people making them who steal art to do so, and if the people who use ai art outweighed the people who are against it (or even just seemed to due to a hypothetical lack of backlash toward using it as you propose) then the likelihood of laws/rights passing would drop
Same reason I’d talk down to someone for buying from a business that everyone knows to sell stolen goods. It’s sponsoring the theft of the commonfolk by greedy corporations.
Rights associated to a persons art is the usage of said art.
It has been accepted legally that any usage of your art or produced works (including other works like writing or other forums of creativity) REQUIRE the person using your work to get your permission.
AI models often do not get this permission and simply scrape sites like twitter, instagram, deviantart, and sometimes even piracy sites for content to train itself on. This leads to a lot of theft.
Its accepted that AI models and the companies scraping the internet (including piracy sites) for content are required to ask for permission from artists to use their content.
What this means is that an AI company would be required to ask your permission or work out a deal where you allow your work to be used. (in Instagrams case, they have started adding “opt into AI” on the settings and made it close to impossible to opt out of)
EDIT;
AI models have been trained on content such as movies and very popular copyrighted works. To my knowledge, this is accepted to be copyright infringement and theft.
EDIT 2;
Its also worth noting that whilst some people argue AI models utilising all these works is “fair use” its not, and very much not by a long shot. Fair Use requires you to change a work in a manner that is noticeable and in a way that does not produce a market substitue or infringe on the right of the original work.
AI art fails fundamentally to fit Fair use as;
AI art generally works to replace artists
AI art does not change the work. It takes the work, shoves it into a data set, and then crunches it alongside milliosn of other pieces to make something random. This is not fair use or transformative, that is the usage of a copyrighted work without permission or the rights to it
why do you care? ai sucks and it’s ass imo dogging on it should be encouraged here I’ll say it: AI ART FUCKING SUCKS and if you use it you suck too and should stop doing so immediately
AI-generated images don’t pull from specific artworks or datasets. Instead, they are created based on patterns and concepts that the AI has learned from training data. This means the final image is a new creation. this should constitute fair use since the item was signficantly changed from the original
Whilst youre right; the final image is a “new creation” that means its not Fair Use nor is that the issue.
The issue is this;
They do not have the rights nor permission to utilise the artists works in their data sets, database, or training data. This means that usage of those copyrighted works is illegal and is considered theft.
Therefore; bad
varies from different AI models but most are trained on artworks found on the internet, the difference is is that they using the artworks to learn new patterns
secondly it’s not considered theft or illegal because the AI isn’t storing exact copies of what ever it reads its learning patterns from its datasets. thats fundamentally different than just copying it
This is the main issue; most artworks on the internet aren’t open to being used by AI; they need the express permission of owners of the arts rights in order to use it in a dataset. Otherwise it is illegal, just blatantly so.
This also expands to any other works (including books and writing)
If you own a work and someone randomly yoinks it and puts it into a bots dataset, that is illegal, and you can seek financial compensation for that.
This is not the issue nor are you correct.
Whilst technically the AI making “Copies” of art isnt the legal issue, the usage of the art in datasets is. Again, you need permission to use peoples property in dataset. Arts and the right associated to that art is a form of property.
HOWEVER; Very specifically in the case of written works, it is possible to force an AI model to spit out entire copyrighted works which it did not have permission to use as training data. This includes a lot of books and fictions that you would otherwise need to go out of your way to purchase.
Edit/note;
Essentially, in short, AI using works it did not request to use and had no legal right to puts a lot of jobs at risk. Writers get their works stolen and possibly put out there for free because a bot was trained on a piracy site, and artists lose jobs and commissions because bots were trained on theirs and thousands of others works without any permission, legal right, or compensation.
Generally speaking ownership of art and designs is a thing. That is a form of property. If someone infringes on your property and causes you notable financial harm for their own benefit and to the detriment of the enviornment, I imagine you’d be pretty damn pissed too
Sigh
I’ve seen so many people who make AI images call themselves “AI artists”, or even worse, just “artists” and pretend that their work is original. As an artist myself, speaking for everyone who is angry, AI uses the works of artists without their permission to learn, and many artists don’t want this, at all. There are even models out there that just use the work of specific artists to get their style, of course these models are created without their permission, for instance, the Studio Ghibli AI trend, none of the artists who work on projects there gave their consent for their work to be used. It really hurts to see something you’ve worked so hard on put into an AI and used to generate soulless slop. Artists of all kinds are losing their jobs, not just visual artists. Writers are losing their jobs because AI can do the same thing. People are losing their source of income because of AI. Look, I don’t hate AI, it can do really good things, it’s just when it’s used to replace the jobs of people that it’s bad.
It’s basically just the sentiment of “These darn robots are stealing our jobs!” but adjusted for trying to replace something considered an inherently human activity and being in the 21st century.
I think fundamentally, the less human effort that’s put into any art form, the worse it is.
I don’t hate AI, I know some people do, but AI can be very good when only used to supplement things that someone hasn’t learned how to do on their own, and then they should try to see what the AI did right and start using that going forward.
The point of advancement isn’t to replace humanity, but to assist it. Always has been. Some people are just making shit and not putting any sauce on it.
ai sucks and it’s ass imo dogging on it should be encouraged here I’ll say it: AI ART FUCKING SUCKS and if you use it you suck too and should stop doing so immediately