epic forum argument
not gonna read all your explanations, too lazy
i know you mained ONLY weapons, but weapons are heaps better when paired with magic a lot. synergies are what carries weapons, and the magic high jump is useful.
i feel because of this, bow is slightly overrated. you need really good aim to be good at it, and its stupid good when you have that aim. but, if you dont, its not that good. i feel personally a shield is better than the bow, or a hard vast for shield and the mighty crash.
also old sword/alalean cutlass weapons are a good alternative for a sunken sword, if you dont have one.
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finally home from school and remembered about this. here is my tierlist;
Oathkeeper still loses lots of points in my book for that. Punishable, but not completely useless. Thatās why itās low B. All I did was acknowledge the con it has.
Daggers can do quick bleeding if your branch bow just fired and missed or if you donāt have one. Honestly, itās better to just shoot the bow again, so yes, daggers are bad. But they still do bleeding, which makes me feel like their D. Bad, but still useful for at least one thing. Maybe I rate it higher because Iām a poison user, but at the same time, bleeding is good on itās own anyways.
Yes, I do think double daggers are better, but just slightly. Thatās why I thought it would be slightly above. The only con is double the throw time, making you more open to attacks. At the same time, if you miss, you can aim at them if they move.
You can use a weapon like vastira or oath, plus shield, and a bow in your slots. Shields are SUPER viable. Theyāre not a waste of a slot for something else lower in combat value.
And for you @Rake, this isnāt an argument. Weāre simply agreeing to disagree with one another. We arenāt attacking each other, weāre simply proposing our opinions on the tier list with the other individual. This is a peaceful discussion.
trash list i can make a better one
give template
it is punishable yes, but when you try and punish, oath will just mass damage you. take damage and do damage. imo not worth
So you like oathkeeper or not? I donāt think itās bad but it isnāt perfect either.
if only it was the 3 slash Raging Storm, then it would be perfect
i like it for weapons. besides a magic blast, its the only decent damaging long ranged weapon
Even if it was Iād say high A. Sunken can outclass it anyways.
Maybe but think about it. 3 RS Oath + Sunken. OP?
I have further reviewed my opinions and have concluded the single dagger to be the 3rd best weapon in the game after bow and sunken sword. I heavily underestimated the startup of the single dagger, still felt like it was better than the other options that left you more viable to 4 blasts after using shit.
Worst weapon is short sword imo
Club is very slightly better cause better blocking power
(This doesnāt include shield if that counts as a weapon in WoM)
let me do some testing rq
Nope Old Dagger still trash to me. Itās not even the worse weapon in the game, Spears still are for me. Though the argument could be made that Club and Shortsword are lower because they are the only weapons with absolutely no moves, spear is just not good. Might have to move dagger to D though and maybe short sword to F, still a better melee weapon. Not at all practical in pvp but hey, pve itās kinda something.
Might just be you because itās really not that hard to aim imo, and crossbow you canāt shoot immediately after pulling it out like you can with dagger, same with branch bow but branch bow dps is better.
Every other wep takes like 50 years to use
my tier list more accurate
Oath is worse than dagger smh