Could the player have beaten Calvus if he had the cloud curse?

  1. I think thats is impossible or we will end up being fataly injured in this scenario. Our non-awakened protagonist is already confirmed to be injured after fight with Calvus, which is the worsest savant we have ever seen.
  1. I doubt that, cuz the only thing that protagonist knows is that this weapon can extract curses. It doesn’t one shots curse users and its will be a pain to pierce Calvus’s body with it, if he can turn into cloud or dodge.

Shortly - Extracting curse from him will make fight even harder, cuz you have to win him in battle + don’t kill him to extract it.

175-200 (without awakenings. 140 lvl with awakening)

In this scenario with or without awakening protag can still hurt Calvus so turning into a cloud won’t work. To be clear the protag can still hurt him while he is a cloud, not that he can’t do it.

The main thing with this is that its entirely possible he would do less damage with the cloud curse than with his lost magic, aether.

Non-awakened warrior can imbue trace of magic energy on weapons?

No, thats not what I’m saying. The specific scenario I’m proposing has the unique condition that the protag can hurt Calvus even without awakening. This is just so its actually possible in the first place for the protag to win.

Pretty hard to judge what will happen, since you can hurt him with magic energy, but does that counts as piercing him with devourer, if you don’t physically touch him?

Since magic disrupts the curse and that’s why it can hurt him I’d imagine the devourer would follow through in the brief instant he’s forced to be semi physical cause the magic is right around the blade.

That said my idea was more that Calvus just wouldn’t have the typical intangibility in this scenario rather than warriors and berserkers to have awakening early since I want them to be mostly at the same level as they were when they fought Calvus the first time.

He can still turn into a cloud here but he can still be hurt even without magic.

But devourer doesn’t kills target instantly. It is just tool for extraction, you use it when target is half-dead.

Lets imagine your fight using devourer as a weapon, instead of tool. How non-weapon based classes will fight then?

I didn’t say it did, but it might be easier to kill Calvus with one since it basically guarantees that a stab to the heart or any fatal wound will kill while a regular weapon wouldn’t for a curse user.

Use their regular skills and then hit him with the m1 while he’s weak. That said the devourer idea was already mostly for warriors/conjurers/knights/warlords anyways.

Doesn’t makes fight easier, when he is weak you already can execute him. Devourer just prevents curse from flying away. It doesn’t really affect battle itself a lot, unless you are very skilled weapon user, which can pierce heart of a magical cloud which is flying all over hall.

I mean, goodluck doing that. I just stated my opinion, maybe it is possible, who knows? We never fought a curse user, so we don’t know how much stronger they make their wielder and how battle with them looks like.

Sorry, but wouldn’t it be 1954-1957? Since humans were given magic around 100CE, that becomes the AU calendar’s Y1. So then the current AO year of Y1854 would be the equivalent of our calendar’s 1954CE (add 1854 years to each date)

all cloud curse users are canonically pushovers
calvus wouldn’t be an exception

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i think landon’s actually getting pretty good though

No.
Despite the Cloud curse being one of the weakest around, it’s still a curse, and curse users are stated to be a step above everyone else (you are comparing a curse user to some level 100 who hasn’t yet awakened?).

The fight also takes place before the player’s awakening, and curse users cannot be damaged by non-magical (Auras use magic, but those are gained on awakening) attacks.

I’m begging you to PLEASE read the 3rd sentence in the post. I’m so sick of people just ignoring it.

That statement goes against the whole concept of curses…
In that case, Maple’s answer can be marked as the solution, it’s concise and direct.

I’m am aware, but the scenario becomes pretty boring if 3/4 of builds can’t do anything

dont auras exist specifically to allow fs and wep users to damage curse users though? or are you talking about something else

My wording went off the rails there, it’s edited now