durandal?
Right, so some person tells me that Torren’s sword is named Folly, did they make that the hell up?
name sounds familiar so if someone has a tech message no, if there’s no tech message then yes
it’s not made up i remember it being called folly
edit, idk the validity of everything stated here, however it does seem to add up with 2016-18 era AA lore, so yeah folly isn’t made up
also old torren was a fucking demon bro 
brother stole the prometheus kill from cursebeard
oh shit if I can find the source that this originates from, then yeah your theory was correct lol
Edit 1: Went down the rabbit-hole. Reading alot of old Arcane Adventures sources, and have now learnt more information about Morock. He apparently has a son far older than Angel, and the Creed family are from Cerulea. His son’s name was Fulger, he used storm magic and he was the 8th division commander for the OSP.
i was gonna say something funny but what the fuck is this
why is it gatekeeping comments
Wasn’t it Freedrock’s sword originally
okay so is torren actually considered canon now because of this? its so confusing… somebody answer.
if he IS canon then yes. he definitely owned “durandal” before whatever doohickey had happened.
Torren is in a weird state of canoncity where hes both retconned but also exists as an incredibly important figure to something in both the lore and the riddles, someone took his place in the lore in relation to freedrock, think thats as much as we know
Torren is in a unique zone.
The old Torren, aka the berserker/ insane super op guy with the Darkflame Curse is no longer canon, because the Darkflame (and Promethean Fire) curses were just too strong, primarily due to them both having the ability to infinitely grow without reaching a cap.
However, AO seems to be introducing a NEW torren, who shares the name of the old one, however we don’t know what powers he has or his current feats.
And this new Torren is actually the King of his homeland, as opposed to being it’s strongest warrior
i dont think promethean flame did that
its like having a guy with 5 quadrillion dollars or a guy with a million dollars that doubles every day
they both cant be stopped, but one of them starts more powerful and the other can get more powerful
The Promethean fire curse held the abilities of EVERY other GFC.
Yeah but Torren was actively insane, and literally had lost his mind/ could not control himself, whereas Morock had learnt to use the Promethean Fire Curse whilst remaining sane.
In a fight to the death, Morock wouldn’t just win out of being stronger, he’d win from just outsmarting Torren.
Plus it’s more like:
A dude with 5 quadrillion dollars that gets 500k that doubles every day, vs as aguy with a million dollars that doubles everyday, but the second dude is constantly on coke and can’t make logical decisions
“Lets go gambling!”
“Roland” Kingdom
(Old) Lore always points to Freedrock having Durandal.
Yes and no, depends on how you define him. Is “Torren Corvus Cross” the person with the achievements? The Kingslayer? The Mistwalker? Then he is indeed canon.
Is “Torren Corvus Cross” the person with the name ‘Torren’? Then no, he is no longer canon. His name has been changed and vetex always talks as like AO’s Kingslayer is a different person.
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the mistwalker is torrens alter ego
If you thought Morock got a downgrade, wait until you see who got the mist curse.
Honestly I do wonder what the hell is with Torren, if that even is his name now
He used to be absolute menace, having a curse that, although not the most powerful by default, had an incredibly high potential that would probably allow it to floor Promethean fire curse. He also killed Freedrock who currently goes as the strongest man in the world, but was likely pretty fucking strong back then too. Torren was, in fact, such a threat to the other 10 strongest entities that several of them teamed up to trap him.
But then Darkflame curse was retconned and we know basically nothing about him. Assuming he did still kill Freedrock, we have no idea how he achieved that. All we really know is that he had slain at least one king, had some sort of ‘evil blade’ that may have been the source of his power, may have turned ‘evil’ because of the power he already had, or a bit of both. We don’t know if he ended up sealed away by the rest of the unknowns.
Same would go for King Arthur. We just don’t know much about who these lore characters even are anymore.
I bet freedrock looks nothing like he used to.