No, this situation isn’t like that at all.
In what world is magic changing, a basic feature 3/4 of classes have on hand for free, realistically supposed to be an endgame feature.
If that’s how he wants it to be when that is a realistic challenge for players to take, sure, go for it, but right now its very much not feasible.
Like when we can actually reach level 400 and do that, most players realistically won’t want to change magics until lost/ancient magics open up and they can really see their options.
However, we’re a LONG way from then.
For now, something should be done to alleviate the issue, it should not be balanced for something we’re years away from.
you clearly don’t get it if that’s the message you’ve gotten.
anyways don’t you have anything better to do with your time than antagonize me?
In addition, I take vetex as a more reasonable person than that.
In most cases where he’s outright suspended somebody for pinging him, its just been a huge pointless hate post with nothing worth saying to say. This is not that.
I am:
1: Calling attention to a problem.
2: Discussing the problem with others.
3: Offering potential solutions to the problem.
4: Asking why no solution has been implemented.
You have done nothing but joke around, antagonize me, and generally be an asshole.
So no, I don’t look at you with the same respect that I look at most other people with.
If that makes me come across as an “arrogant cunt” to you, then stop talking to me and that’d solve both of our issues.
like you, meaning useless forum trolls that do nothing for anybody and actively spit on people for showing any effort or taking themselves even vaguely seriously.
Makes sense from a game stand point
But from a story stand point it be kinda weird if everyone could run around changing their magic anytime they wish
I do agree however that it is a little too rare and some hints if you’re near would help
I completely agree.
Hecate essence being a reasonable thing to find makes absolutely zero sense in lore, but gameplay should always take priority.
Anyways, if a mod sees this, could you do me a favor and obliterate posts 126 through 138 to get rid of all this junk clogging the discussion? Aswell as any potential future posts that may be made after I write this, attempting to continue the pointless drama.
I think magic changing being harder to do is fine because it gives identity to magic users.
The identity thing is two fold: First, there’s the fact you’re using magic. Someone that uses magic, with it being so hard to change, you can guess that they either thought about their choice, or have learned to deal with the strengths and weaknesses of their magic due to not being able to change it easily. This may not come up often, but I think the distinction is something to think about. Secondly, there’s the fact that you chose a particular magic. Seeing someone use an uncommon weapon or an unpopular fighting style isn’t a big deal more often than not, but a magic that isn’t popular? That’s something to talk about.
What about the identity for fighting styles and weapons? Fighting styles tend to have unique benefits when played to their strengths, and they fall behind when you fail to do so. Being able to switch fighting styles easily is important because you may choose one that you just can’t play well. As for weapons, their identity is the versatility earned by amassing a collection of weapons, and choosing weapons that work well with each other.
Why does this matter? If changing magic becomes trivial, as mundane as getting in your boat and sailing to the magic dealership, then its identity becomes a lot weaker. It becomes fighting styles where the only distinction is the stat spread and the status effects. It takes the magic away from the decision of what magic to use.
Being able to change magic easily would be more convenient, but convenience doesn’t always improve a game.
who said anything about making it trivial, I’m completely on board with magic being the hardest thing to change about your build, but hecate essence is absurdly far past that point.
I’m sorry bro but that glaze is wild lore is cool and all but considering it’s a video game obviously the gameplay should prioritized. A quality of life feature doesn’t have to be lore accurate or mentioned at all (also edit not even mentioning how rare it is, it isn’t even implemented well if you have a little amount of graphics your not seeing that shi. Vetex really said hard to miss )
1/3 to 1/12 Really? 4x as rare is kinda wild and just btw giving feedback on a feature isn’t crying. Also uh question so it’s a little more clear when you say that your the only tester that found it, were you the only one searching or were other testers looking as well? (Looking back at my comment the immature comment and the skull was kinda rude sorry)
I think you being the only tester to find it at 1/3 should have given you an entirely different message.
Anyways, I’d love to hear why you’re so determined to defend this despite all logic.
I’m also puzzled why you’d take direct responsibility for it ending up the way it is when everybody pretty universally hates it as it currently is.
when you get tired of spending 20 hours grinding so you can have fun playing the game but everyone involved in the game that acknowledges you says its okay
i genuinely dont believe theres a good defense for hecate essence being so rare because i have never heard one
usually i agree that vetex can do what he wants but like… this just fucking sucks i maybe have like 130-150 hours total on AO ,and if i grinded hecate essence for as long as some people have, id end up with 13-15% of my playtime being purely trying to find it
we should not be trying to defend horrific game design for “lore reasons” and im apalled at how some people dont understand that
“its not that deep!” - many people ive seen on this thread
having to spend that long on a tedious grind to find a single thing that lets you play the game how youd like to seems pretty deep to me idk man
(also edit not even mentioning how rare it is, it isn’t even implemented well if you have a little amount of graphics your not seeing that shi. Vetex really said hard to miss 
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i maybe have like 130-150 hours total on AO ,and if i grinded hecate essence for as long as some people have, id end up with 13-15% of my playtime being purely trying to find it