Is there any actual reason to be a good person?

Being good decreases stress

never been a good person, never will be.

but honestly if everyone’s an asshole this whole world would be a lot less fun than it is right now

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I’m not going to go into metaphysics or anything.

There isn’t actually a reason to be good. There is absolutely nothing that prevents you from being what the rest of us consider evil. Whether this evil is subjective or not doesn’t actually matter. If you wake up one day and choose to be absolutely evil, to kill and destroy, there is nothing stopping you. Nothing that is, but society’s built in safeguards against those “bad apples” who actually overcome the moral instincts (whether trained or purely instinctive) and become evil.

At the same time, there’s no reason to be evil either. 99% of the time there’s no reason. We are always making a cost-benefit analysis of situations. Let’s say your coworker is willing to lend you a pencil if you don’t bring one. There’s no actual reason you shouldn’t bring your own pencil, the effort it takes to do so is not actually worth the effort saved. It’s simply too petty.
Yet at the same time, the reason you don’t want to take advantage of your coworker’s kindness is the exact same reason they’re kind enough to lend you that pencil. It’s because if one day you actually need that kindness, they’re there. And because they trust you not to take advantage of them, that moral instinct (again, whether trained or purely instinctive) has pointed you in the right direction of not constantly borrowing pencils from them.

You make the assumption that you can walk the line between good and evil easily. This is true. But you underestimate the breadth of that line. You seek to get benefits through “dipping” occasionally into morally wrong or ambiguous acts while still appearing good. The problem is, you may not be actually capable of doing this. Imagine attempting to be so overtly good that people think you’re good, but in actuality taking every opportunity to get selfish benefits. It’s almost impossible. You would have to judge a hundred thousand situations objectively and with a healthy understanding of the risks of every choice.

But it’s possible on a smaller scale.

You’ve heard the stories right? A talented coworker who everyone likes is discovered stealing company funds. The kind, likeable regular is using a loophole in coupon codes to get free food. What these people have done is they’ve discovered a “job” so to speak of doing morally wrong actions. Something they can do with regularity that no one should notice (based off of past experience). We do it all the time, it’s only human. I’m sure you can think of a situation where you do something morally ambiguous repeatedly, only for self-benefit. It’s because you’ve discovered that it’s beneficial and doesn’t look that bad for you… perhaps until it’s fully revealed.

Remember, there’s no fine line between good and evil. They’re in the end the result of hundreds of thousands to billions of everyday interactions. The heroes and the villains of this world are rare.

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Also this is pretty fcking stupid of all of you, the guy’s trying to make a discussion and you’ll assume he’s an asshole.

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it just be like that sometimes

idk not really ig

Laws of physics prevent me from teleporting to France to steal the French Crown Jewels and teleport back out. Nitpick though and living good comfortably is more cost efficient than living bad comfortably.

Yes but there’s nothing that stops you from waking up and being like ok this guy is dying and stabbing him with a kitchen knife.

Ok but there’s something stopping me from using a lightsaber to do the same thing other than the Laws of Physics.
Also what if he has a gun?

What’s that got to do with being evil? You don’t need to be evil with a lightsaber, you can do it with your bare hands.

Me rushing down a SWAT team with my bare hands only to get shot immediately.

entry point be like:

You’re creating hypothetical situations in an attempt to disprove an axiom by trial and error. Good luck.

Who said you’re rushing down a SWAT team? You’re borrowing $10,000 from the bank and don’t intend to pay it back.

Except axioms are used to determine validity…
Only 1 situation needs to be true to say it’s good to be good
To claim there is no purpose in being good, being bad should be equally efficient as being good in every situation

They deny me, how do I borrow now?

But you’re trying to find that situation when there are literally infinite situations.

No, you haven’t read my full argument.

My first claim is not that there is no purpose in being good, it’s that there is nothing that stops you from being evil. There is nothing that will physically stop you from committing evil at any given time.

Also who said the bank denied you? You’ve had perfect credit until now, and you’re trying to buy a small plot of land in wyoming.

everyone here’s throwing around big words like “axiom” and “interpersonal relationships” while I’m just sitting here like

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Assuming “you” is in general there are a multitude of situations where you couldn’t be evil, i’d only need to provide one while you’d need to prove every scenario.

No, that’s where you’re wrong. There’s a multitude of situations where you can’t be evil in a specific way. You can’t commit murder with a lightsaber but you can do it with a knife.

The point is that I can prove every single scenario.

Ok what if i’m completely braindead but I cured cancer before I went braindead, I physically wouldn’t be able to do anything considered evil