I remain by my opinion that the entire drama could’ve easily been avoided if vetex just dropped a 1-minute vid or something showing exactly how fall damage works. This one is on vetex and vetex entirely, as instead of doing a simple solution that, if what they’re saying is true, would immediately douse the dissent, he decided to yet again get angry at the community.
There’s no way in hell am I paying $20 to change my magic the fuck 
Yea just buy silksong
Bought that shit on release next thing I’m buying is the risk of rain 2 dlc not a fuckin Lego magic change
Speaking of which
then dont change it?
You never were supposed to do so to begin with
Not my point here I don’t think changing magic in a Lego game should ever be more than $10 max
It is concern of people that use magic for just 1 exact build that is ruined after 5% affinity change in 1 way or another
The thing is if he removed all options to change your primary magic people would start crying again,
20$ is just what Vman wants from them to shut up
they are funny indeed
There literally wouldn’t have been a need for a gamepass if vetex wasn’t so stubborn about making Hecate essence a pain in the ass to find for some reason
idk where this “if magic changing was easy people would just change their magic every time it gets nerfed” thing comes from like the people who play pvp or even pve seriously dont just make new slots or have been using shadow/earth/lightning since the game came out
making magic changing a pain in the cheeks only punishes people who want to keep everything consolidated on one slot and like having stuff like maxed out deckhands or titles
Ok but most people legitimately can’t even test the feature to begin with, so when you say “testers are defending a bad change” your basis isn’t the change itself it’s popular opinion.
From the perspective of someone who legitimately disagrees with the public how do you respond to this when the public opinion doesn’t even have a solid basis? Add that to the fact that negativity catches attention more than positivity so people are more likely to just hate the change by default.
This problem usually just resolves itself if you actually address the arguments themselves. If someone is making a faulty argument to defend a change then they most likely have an ulterior motive. If not then maybe they have a point?
Like if you want the rundown of actual tester opinions so you can be sure of what is and isn’t genuine:
- Fall Damage: Mostly a nothingburger. It was more negative when it first dropped but over time the sentiment has improved.
- Pouches: Annoying (sentiment probably changed with the new setting)
- Energy Rework: Unpleasant
- Magic gamepass: Some don’t care, others think the price is unfair
its moreso based on logic, we’ve been through countless updates and iterations of this game without fall damage, and its suddenly announced out of the blue (it was leaked but w/e). of course people are going to be upset and voice their opinions. are they automatically “wrong” because of this? plenty of arguments have been made and it seems you just hand them away as “faulty” arguments.
and the snarky attitude from testsers/mods/whatever of the like just reinforces the beliefs people have of you guys. “erm we tested it, we saw, its good, vetex wont change it anyway etc.”
people complained about the difficulty of changing magic (a perfectly valid concern). then out of spite, 2000 robux gamepass is planned, solely to make changing magic still inaccessible and to appease the “lore” (i can guarantee 90% of players do not care about the lore and just pvp by this point), yes people are gonna be upset.
with custom magics, most people hate them due to them being used for bounty hunting/infamy, and of course, every tester/mod/ higher up ive seen is defending it
its like people point out flaws with the game and then for whatever reason its made twice as bad just to be petty, i dont understand it. day after day, my view of certain higher ups of this game just seems like a clique rather than a team working to make the game better.
its because of these reasons and possibly more, that people dont automatically take the words of testers as gospel, no offense. im sure of some you guys are fine though
I’d lowkey just go on a journey for a Hecate Essence at that price, which is literally the point of the high price tag lol
The arguments I’m addressing right now are specifically the arguments you have made though. You’re sitting here trying to tell me that “it isn’t wrong” for people to react with hostility to these changes.
I wouldn’t even necessarily disagree because:
- The nature of a community is downstream from either the higher ups or the game itself, whether that be promoting these attitudes or failing to moderate them.
- The general community doesn’t have insider knowledge.
That’s why I’m not going to go on the fall damage poll for example and just start calling everyone stupid.
But to say that the community has a right to react that way and then get mad when testers respond??? Like is this right to share an opinion one-sided or what?
I just discussed with the other guy not too long ago that I just posted a harmless take and open the thread to people being hostile. I’m not going to spend the time trying to lower the temperature after that, sure that’s probably a good idea and ultimately what you should be doing but just personally I’m going to keep the same energy. It’s not an ideal way to handle things moreso than it is a loss of patience.
Give me paper and ink magic and I can solo, trust
Oracles do NOT deserve to be able to use a spirit weapon without developing relations and making offerings to the god, change it NOWW!!!