oh no the no pvp cheatcode doesnt work anymore 
that change is def the issue causing rking and hunting. Infamy and renown, nah those are fine
this comment was also just with the context of other things, vetex keeps adding more and more pvp things that will affect pve players. (for example sensing)
my friend has a deckhand, he can fucking run circles around me in his boat.
when we can actually finally get deckhands we will see how much we missed out actually.
also gotta say why do people keep bringing up potions as just an easy tool to remove pvp players???
my ass has to farm the whole potion progression to actually get some decent potions, then i also have to keep grinding the ingredients to keep making these potions, this is just horseshit, you shouldnât be forced into potions just for assheads to not annoy me
itâs a mini bit my fault because i barely interacted with the potion updated, or even barely played while it was out, but still, itâs horseshit being forced into it, it takes time and will forever take time because you have to have the ingredients.
idk how many times ive repeated this but yes ill say it again
vetex added 1 (1!!!) feature that affects pve players negatively in an otherwise 95% pve focussed update. On top of that, that 1 feature doesnt really do much damage to pvers anyways. Most updates will be pve focussed too so there really isnt anything to complain or worry about except for any actual issues that pvers face (deckhands and clans).
Sensing could become a problem tho but we will have to see how vetex implements it before anyone starts complaining. Maybe players will be harder to spot than npcs even if both share the same power number 
Saying that the game is becoming more pvp focussed when an update like the dark sea is being worked on is just simply wrong
you keep talking about other shit, stop repeating it when i obviously donât agree with it because this just doesnât have to do with it
IâM FINE WITH PVP CONTENT itâs just pvp content being forced upon pve players and them having to keep doing stuff to avoid it is complete and utter dogshit that doesnât have a place to be in a mainly pve game.
the pve content being added is great, but vetex keeps slowly adding more and more shit to make pve players get forced into pvp, i have said this multiple times and youâve never answered that.
you always went whataboutism, in that thereâs pve content so i should be happy, but my ass canât enjoy the pve content when i just get attacked by pvp heads (yes ik dark sea is pretty much pve heaven, but your ass will not stay in that long, itâs gonna be like 1-2 hours.)
because it is lmao
i maxed out potion in a weekend by collecting seaweed, and i have a million pink apples, lunar moss, and belladondas by just playing the game
you had to farm a lot? brewing is by far the easiest skill to level to perfect and most reagents necessary for avoiding pvp are easy to obtain from either ingredient bags or grinding. Besides its one of only 3 methods i mentioned and i dont think anyone else mentioned it (tho i could be wrong)
youre not being forced into it tho
it isnât when you keep having to farm shit, sure i wasnât playing too much, but my ass has barely any potion shit.
having to farm shit only to be able to not get annoyed it just fundamently dumb
i have like 5 pink apples, maybe. idk how long you were playing over the weekend but itâs just a fact that my ass barely has jack shit.
i highly doubt u get jumped enough where you burn through potions faster than passively getting them
i did, because i got jumped enough and never had potions.
other shit??? its literally what this entire topic was about 
. You literally started complaining about some small ass feature in an otherwise pvers dream update. Instead, you couldve complained about some actual issues that are the cause of pvers being hunted or rked 
nah wtf thats crazy. Ive adressed it in EVERY comment ive made. Stop lying. Youre not being forced into pvp unless youre in a clan or have high renown. That small change to love potions will do NOTHING
there literally is no whataboutism. Thats just you making excuses for your arguments being made invalid. Instead of focussing on one of the bigger issues, you focus on some small change that helps pvpers and whine about it
what. not going to certain locations?? man i was just minding my own business on random islands and get attacked sometimes. thatâs just not a method lol
and even then potion is just the one that is the immediate stoppage of everything, potion can be used everywhere, so in any situation where you are gonna get jumped potions would help. thereâs no goddamn other method
not saying on ravenna decreases the chances on getting rked significantly. Same for not staying near munera or silverhold
on top of that youre completely ignoring the fact that you can wipe your renown and basically never be attacked. Tho you cant get deckhands that way, so why not complain about deckhands instead??? Is it too much to ask you to focus on some actual issue instead of âooga booga love pots no easy avoid pvpâ
and they can still be used for that . Just pop a waterbreathing, agility, invis, gale, sharkrepel or literally any potion that could help you run/swim away. Besides its not like literally every hunter will have love pots with them
idk what the argument even is at this point 
i complained about a feature that was dumb, you blow it out of proportion as if i was saying that everything is shit and the update is sooooo pvp focused.
bullshit, because you keep talking as if i hate every pvp feature ever. and then every other âaddressingâ would be saying that the rest of the update exists. yeah i fucking know
it was a small fucking comment but you immediatly complained about me not liking something and saying a snarky dumb comment to it. you kept deviating from the thing and just went: âoh look, but pve content!!!â
i donât care about a small change that helps pvpers, i hate features that just shit on pve players.
this feature was probably made in mind with the renown/deckhand change, but we still donât know if itâs even coming to the dark sea update, and i kinda doubt because we heard jackshit about that
i did fucking complain about deckhands, but thatâs an issue already being resolved, my problem is there a change being made that just fucks pvers without the deckhand change yet.
and they can just do the same??? why wouldnât they have such stuff then. love potion was the only thing they could do nothing against, which was the thing actually saving people from pvpâers.
and now blud is making stuff up, absolutely fantastic.
seems like i need to refresh your memory with this^
you complain about some small ass feature when the entire update is meant as content FOR pvers. Stop fucking nitpicking and complaining about every issue you see
great, somebody is hasnt read any of my comments yet still is trying to argue. Awesome
either that or youre simply not using your brain when reading my comments. Ive talked about the feature not being that bad for pvers, ive talked about the rest of the update, ive talked about some actual issues (clans and renown), ive talked about ways to avoid pvp, ive talked (with you) about any future issues in 1 comment too. What else do you want me to talk about??? Do i need to ask vetex to add private servers just for you???
uploading it two times cuz hopefully that helps you remember this
how else do you want me to fucking counter your point??? Is there some hidden third dimension to pve vs pvp? You seem to know about it
yet you said the game is turning into a pvp game purely off of 1 change to love potions (they arent even fully unusable with that change either). Instead, like ive said multiple times and crimsonpants pointed it out too, you could complain about renown and clans instead. But noooo the love pot change is obv the worst thing to happen to the game
Bro finally mentioned it and made a fair point 
it literally doesnt fuck up anyone. If you only relied on love pots, which were already somewhat counterable with a splash love pot and barely any pver used them anyways, thats on you.
because pvpers arent pvers, crazy right 
. If it comes to reagents etc a pver should def have more resources than most pvpers and hunters. Besides if youre already getting hunted by someone who is stacked on potions (likely an lb/high renown player) then it was prolly cuz you have high renown yourself and should do smth about that instead
my main issue comes from you nitpicking some small ass change and blowing it out of proportion by saying that the game is turning into a pvp game. The counterevidence is literally right in front of you yet you keep insisting youre right. Instead of crimsonpants, who looks at it from both sides and accurately finds the issues, youre whining about love pots