okay cool
glad we could clear that up then
remove agility this, remove agility that
attack size STILL being the meta:
i mean, i’m speaking from personal experience here but i never had much issues with attack size builds, it’s mostly the vfx from size magics which are the issue
the thing is atk size has counterplay
you can parry, out damage trade, or zone
with agility there is nothing you can do aside from simply having more agility
that’s why it’s so problematic
(not that i don’t agree tho we should buff atk speed and nerf atk size 
)
i’d like to see you zone against someone who unleashes sandfall sized attacks every half a second
(spoiler alert, its damn near impossible if they know what they’re doing)
Wouldn’t ad hominem be “yeah sure but you’re a lightning conj so your opinions invalid”
do you… not know what slowness 5 gel is?
what
okay lol i can demonstrate whenever ur on
being forced to get a somewhat expensive one time use item in order to even have a chance of catching someone is not a valid reason to keep agility around
belladonna flowers are NOT that hard to get, especially with reagent pots…
either way, you shouldn’t be forced to stock up on potions to counter a build
he isn’t gonna tho
iirc some tester said vetex wants to remove agility he’s just worried about the backlash
i could be schizo tho
In the realm of debate, it is imperative to refrain from highlighting that an adversary has resorted to ad hominem attacks, as doing so would inadvertently involve oneself in the same fallacious reasoning.
Pointing out that someone used ad hominem to make a point isnt ad hominem
also i feel the aglity debate is stupid as shit
yes, if you abuse high aglity you can run away from fights easily, but that requires you to BUILD high aglity, which means you’ve made sacrafices elsewhere in your build. obivously if your opponent has higher agility they will out run you, thats like being mad that someone with more power does more damage than you. If you want to combat agility users use agility or slow V gels
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Not that OnionCream is right tho, hanmbi didnt committed ad hominem at all
I’ve never understood the opposition to agility.
“noooo, you built your build around something that I didn’t account for!” shut up
While the initial assertion might hold under typical circumstances, in this instance, the subject’s use of the ad hominem critique was devoid of any argumentative purpose and served solely to engage in the slinging metaphorical mud at their opponent.
In this circumstance.
Your comment was generalizing, saying that in any debate pointing out ad hominem is an ad hominem itself, which it isnt