The problem with b team

Only in arcane odyssey will you see people complaining about… Get this, Balancing making things fair.

They’re trying to make every magic fair so people can ACTUALLY choose whatever they want and NOT get shit on.

Definetly potty a suggestion because now bad magics are forced to use the arcanium they’re given, limiting build variety.

Both were incredibly braindead, and you couldn’t even catch the player on a ship because they had better maneuverability

If you didn’t know already, vetex actually WANTS people to farm the dark sea, so this is kinda stupid to say.

Before, making gear was literally a fucking gacha :joy:

They aren’t making sunken worse, they’re making it better at different things (DEFENSE). Having viable builds with high substats locked behind 50 hours of fishing or trading away 1/5th of your soul is silly.

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and because we couldn’t test it, it went horribly. also, that was still just a balance change, both us and vetex dont have the time to do that for more than like 1 or 2 moves per update max

we will always try to make the game fair, this is never changing, if you don’t like it then it’s not for you. there will be much more diversity in builds as the game goes on, as well as literal town sized attacks, but that is not for this level cap and even vetex agrees

yes… which is why they do less damage…

it’s funny because people get mad at us for different metas that pop up but when we do actually make an effort to get rid of them it’s “noo thats so boring!!” u mfs need to make up ur mind, there isnt and will never be a solution that will make everyone happy

we are working on better communication with vetex, as of last week we’ve been able to ask him a few questions a week on ideas we have for him/info we need. it’s not ideal and is not enough for the best balance, but all we can do is try to make do with what we get

B team is not this realistic they’re going to continue to nerf everything till theres no uniqueness at all to which magic you pick.

You guys dont get tired of always using the same excuses? Why not be open minded for once and think “hm. Yeah maybe the game would be really boring if every magic had no uniqueness and had same exact viability’s :thinking:

Post nimbus is so much less fun than pre nimbus for like 10 different reasons. But you guys pretty much killed every other attack speed playstyle that isnt mage. You guys should’ve dealt with that better. Instead of throwing fat bandaid that just killed every other build that isnt mage :sob:

didn’t vetex very recently say that the uniqueness will come not from stats, but from how you customize your magic’s skills? If you have an issue with that, you should take it up with him, not the balance team.

And what’s wrong with all magics being viable?? it allows pvpers to pick whatever magic they want rather than having to pick one they don’t like simply because it is outclassed. Most people seem to agree that this is a good thing, I don’t understand why you are so against it.

All magics being viable isnt the problem its them not having they’re own unique strengths “viabilities” probably wasnt the best way to word that. What I meant was we’ve been nerfing any of the very little nuiances that we did have that made choosing a magic cool. There’s no point of having 20 different magics if they all get used the same exact way. Im talking about kb on wind pulsar, platforms, and stuns. The very little of niche abilities we had we nerfed to the ground. Instead we should be enforcing more creative changes and the bteam saying they cant is bs because they did it with the surge rework.

it’s honestly a lot worse now considering there’s still RNG mechanics with armor obtainment + all of the pointless statbloat from gem socketing and modifiers (which are funnily enough even more RNG based) :sleeper:

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Cringe ass doomer take

Why these topics become so popular?

because we have nothing else to debate and argue about, other than spirit weapons which are being handled in the patch notes topic.

We just want the game to be fun again.

When did it become not funny?

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Pluh whats ur response to my take?

it’s still fun imo, doing the occasional treasure chart alongside other things can be fun and PvP always is.

No the one before that

oops holdon was doing something at the time

Comparison between potions users and metamancers, who is better? According to ingame messages, people hate potions users more than metal mages, lmao. So its a good topic to argue about.

all of those gimmicks still exist, they have just been nerfed. I would love to see more depth in them though, it’s just not something the balance team would have control over without contributing most of a balance doc to it.

Now I do see you mentioning the surge rework, but that was still mainly just very simple number changes to an already existing move rather than entire additions.