What’s your problem with the storyline?

Lowkey just sounds like Vetex had 2 separate but similar storylines and didn’t fully flesh them out before he fused them into one. Alot of Ravenna’s history is wonky, but ig that can be explained in lore as one of the Ravenna Royal families’ supposed rewriting and hiding of history to make them seem more grand.

bro that was probably just before Kessler became king

? Bit of a late response but yes, they believed mages were superior to curse users before Kessler. However, it is to be noted that when Kessler ruled for actual centuries before his demise.

It’s safe to say that Winterveil culture would have changed much by then, so the old man’s information is still outdated by a couple hundred years.


1 month late but yeah ok

Oooooh, transition, like going from a berserker build to a mage build!

Ravenna getting solo’d by a lv70-100 dude while fodder pirates in the other seas are probably as strong as calvus

pretty sure this is just for game scaling

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kid named ludonarrative dissonance

By Ravenna do you mean Calvus? Cause the mc did not solo Ravenna they had someone with a lost magic and a curse user with a pretty crazy curse backing them up, one of them dealing with the actual strongest person in Ravenna, and the other dealing with whatever guard was in the castello.

If you think the mc beating Calvus is the issue, its really not. Having a lost magic and and assortment of random abilities doesn’t automatically equate to being a good fighter. Calvus can hit pretty hard, but it really isn’t a big stretch of the imagination to say that the mc can beat him through better skill.

AO does have a bit of this, but that’s not what’s happening in what you’re complaining about. Plus ludonarrative dissonance is kinda something a lot of games have to deal with in order to not restrict the player to the point the game becomes less fun, so just pointing it out(though again in this case its not whats happening) doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s a problem.

You dont think a mc with 3 weeks of experience and months of working on the mines with 4 hours of sleep and shit food being able to beat the guy that’s been training with his lost magic since he was a kid + the order giving him all that was necessary to make him stronger is unrealistic?

Make all the calvus savant excuses you want (mc is also a savant lmfao) no matter how you look at it this is a massive leap in logic. Truly the only thing stopping ravenna from being complete fodder is Julian

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The recurring allies just come and go out of nowhere. On your first playthrough, you may not even recognize anybody besides Morden.

They don’t establish themselves as friends until randomly when it’s jailbreak time. Warren just took a pit stop where we happened to be at.

Neviro didn’t even pretend to have future importance until he did.

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By the time the mc reaches Ravenna it had already been multiple months.

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Difference between a dude who learns to utilize their abilities vs someone who just learns an ability and then moves on. Its not really a crazy concept and has been made pretty clear. Just having a wide range of abilities doesn’t mean he’s a skilled fighter who’s gonna land all his hits.

You made multiple false statements in your argument. Either you’re lying for some reason, or you just don’t really know what you’re talking. The stuff with the dates is in the game you don’t have to look real hard for it. Regardless I don’t really want to bother if you’re just gonna say stuff that’s untrue cause we’re not really gonna get anywhere, so I’m just gonna leave it at this.

1 kick 1000 times vs 1000 kicks 1 time

“here in deepwoken its not power vs power its skill vs skill”

its true I got the dates wrong but the point still stands, its a nerfed mc against someone with a stronger magic, years of training and experience and at their prime (not to mention better gear)

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:white_check_mark:

:x:
“ok cool i have ironleg crash, and triasta throw, and aether blast”
as opposed to
“i have 5 magic moves, 6 weapon moves, and 3 fstyle moves”

so do you think calvus just uses his magic to light up the room and never fought anyone the order provided?

yes he was just built like that (not in a good way)
he spams magic and not even effectively
its like giving a toddler a gun and having the toddler fight a grown man with a sword

the order explicitly trained him, you’re saying he never fought anyone then

you can train without real practice, you’ll be shit at what you train at tho
(for example calvus)

thats ridiculous, this is one of the biggest organizations on the war seas and calvus is a high lord, they’d do more for him than teaching him how to use crash and pulsar