Why do some players complain about "toxicity" in PVP?

[crimis_cringle]

@pakv

running would be more of a waste of time, as being combat tagged voids agility, it’s just a petty move considering you dont lose much and you decide to waste both parties times. this actually happens alot, people just run and monkey around to spite the fact theyre being ganked

whatever go my space+shift across sameria

if they want my renown and galleons they have to earn that shit

[pakv]

@anon11693090

This does feel like bait, as many have said. Not AphoticGoblin levels of bait, but poor bait nonetheless.

it isnt bait because its awfully prevalent in the game, its turned into a joke amongst pvpers now lmao. im genuinely addressing it cause i dont know why its labelled specifically as “toxicity”

@anon11693090

It depends. If you’re in a small clan with little infamy and only a claim on a low-contest island, you wouldn’t expect to be ganked. There’s little incentive for such. However, if you’re in a high infamy clan or claimed a high-contest island (Cassia and Harvest come to mind), you should expect to be ganked. The same goes for bounty - if you have a low amount (5-20k), you would assume that gankers would go for higher targets. If you are said higher target (100k+), expect to be ganked.

thing is reward is reward, the people you find that wont waste your time AND will be in a clan are valueable to progressing your aim.

@anon11693090

Very new thing, but yeah. I see the point of running as discouraging the player from continuing to chase you - waste their time enough for them to give up. Is it petty? I guess. However if you’d get arrested, it’s still a good choice. If your time is gonna be wasted, waste the time of the ganker as well.

using the same logic as the people im talking about, i could call this toxic as you’re purposefully trying to waste my time and the pettiness alongside it pushes that idea

[teamjb4]

Exactly then im not gonna spend 90 percent of my galleons to get it all cleared

[teamjb4]

Especially as i find it incredibly boring to jewel crafting money farm and cargo runs

[pakv]

whatever makes people take this seriously, i get how it sounded like bait but it’s something i wanna actually see peoples opinions on

[spongjy]

@pakv

also running would be more of a waste of time, as being combat tagged voids agility, it’s just a petty move considering you dont lose much and you decide to waste both parties times. this actually happens alot, people just run and monkey around to spite the fact theyre being ganked

can confirm, i am indeed one of those people who run around while being attacked to waste as much of their time as possible out of pure spite

[Gamehero14]

Anyways, this barely matters anymore, as the issue is being mostly resolved. FINALLY.

[Charlie_Turnip]

It takes only one twat to give you PTSD

[alexthecat]

bro, i just answered your question. nobody mentioned impact or whatever. players complain about toxicity in PVP because..pvp in this game is toxic, thats your answer

[pakv]

@Zormego

Adding onto your point, Renown (which is like a magnet for many PvPers who want it) is just obtained far too easily. Basically anything and everything gives it up to 100K, and past that, you can still hunt NPCs to get it, even though a casual player will probably be hunting them for the treasure charts they can get from it.

trust me, ive pved to 1m and its dreadfully boring. it’s literally soulless grinding with the only variation being how many skills do i have to hit on this level 260 npc till it dies.

@spongjy

can confirm, i am indeed one of those people who run around while being attacked to waste as much of their time as possible out of pure spite

why is this not deemed as toxic, one person trying to get renown and the other throwing a fit of rage bringing themselves down alongside the other party

[Charlie_Turnip]

@pakv

why is this not deemed as toxic, one person trying to get renown and the other throwing a fit of rage bringing themselves down alongside the other party

I doubt you can’t find another bounty to hunt

[pakv]

people throwing skills at eachother for rewards is… toxic?? fascinating, theres some sort of agenda being pushed against pvp as if it makes you a bad person for doing so

[pakv]

if you’re in a clan its to be expected, bottom line

[sock]

@pakv

using the same logic as the people im talking about, i could call this toxic as you’re purposefully trying to waste my time and the pettiness alongside it pushes that idea

@pakv

why is this not deemed as toxic, one person trying to get renown and the other throwing a fit of rage bringing themselves down alongside the other party

local forumer claims surviving against someone trying to kill you is toxic, genuinely thought it was a smart argument

[Charlie_Turnip]

Not even the matter.

[crimis_cringle]

@pakv

why is this not deemed as toxic, one person trying to get renown and the other throwing a fit of rage bringing themselves down alongside the other party

it’s an equivalent exchange. if someone is wasting my time by killing me, i will waste their time by not fighting back and taking as long as possible to die

[crimis_cringle]

when did sir turnip say anything on clans?

[pakv]

ignoring the “out of spite to waste as much of their time as possible part”, professional cherrypicker

[sock]

“let me kill you in 5 seconds flat or you’re toxic” yes, this makes very much sense, i agree with you now

[pakv]

got infamy mixed with renown lmao